A wire will be run from the front LED Side Markers to the rear LED Side Markers giving them the same functionality. X 17 in. I have updated the diagram, please check it out. 82 Posts . 4.4 out of 5 stars 68. oh, that looks awkward and an overkill, anyway if you are satisfied then it's fine…. The following figure shows how to modify the above car side marker further such that it always flashes in accordance with the turn signal pulses: The 470uF makes sure that the PNP TIP127 remains completely disabled while the turn signal is operating. If it discharges to fast the marker starts turning on before the next blink. Remove the OEM bulb and replace it with the new, brighter #168 bulb. It works but I have one small issue. On some early cars, you must turn the key in the ignition for these to work. Please add a couple of 1N4007 diodes in series with the LED positive line and check if that solves the problem…. Would you please post the "enclosed chart" which Mr. Jerry Klien is referring in his request. The other line controls the turn signal blinking function. yes that's' possible, reducing the 470uF to some lower value, say to 220uF or 100uF will correct the issue. The YEL wire is the power wire. I can change the wiring and add in a relay (much like shown above) but was just wondering, if the side marker lights are smallish LEDs and only drawing 50mA, is there no way of making them work without using the relay? I am also the founder of the website: https://www.homemade-circuits.com/, where I love sharing my innovative circuit ideas and tutorials. I would have to know what wire goes to what post on each component. The article discusses a car side marker modification which enables it to respond to the existing turn signal pulses and flash in tandem with the turn signal flashing. The project is to create two identical circuits for the car's left and right turn signals. The driving lights are dual filament 1157 and the side markers are single filament 158. 6" x 2-1/4" Rectangle. It works great during the day. I've done it on several … Since it uses the turn signal input at night, it turns off when the other lights turn on. I am not a brain when it comes to circuitry but I have done some simple tasks with relays and am good with a soldering gun. Attach the YELLOW wire to the bulb positive. Cut the positive wire to the marker light. We are only concerned with the turn signal function. Attach the RED wire to the marker light source positive. These contain the brake lights, turn signals, reverse lights and parking or marker lights: 1. Disconnect the Negative battery cable. When you cut the side marker wire and connect it to the blue wire, it essentially is like extinding the brown wire to the other lights to share the same ground as the fog and turn signals. And finding the right sized light bulb to fit into the side marker light housing may be a little hard. Required fields are marked *. During the day, it blinks the LED Side Markers ON.At night, since the LED Side Markers are illuminated the circuit reverses and blinks the LED Side Markers OFF. I wanted to have my 100W  7 amp fog lights work off a dimmer so that I could tune them in to the exact lighting requirements. I think the solution is running the side markers with constant hot lead and controlling the blinking off or blinking on with some kind of control circuit on the side marker's ground. The previously indicated relay coil along with the diode will no longer be required and could be eliminated, and the collector of the BC547 only hooked up with the base of mentioned TIP127. Boat parts are synonyms with big bucks. Step 5: Route the wires from the side mirror all the way to the front engine bay and tap the wires to the front turn signal light, the front side marker lights on the fender, or the mirror assembly turn signal (if so equipped). More curious than anythingH. Also the same lamp is also expected to light up when the park lights are ON. If you are using a regular bulb, you could have done the floating ground method. (The diode across the coil could be eliminated if that line was still needed)Thx, for this new design which will use only BJTs and no relay, the BC547 collector will connect solely with the base of the second TIP127 through a 10K resistor. The circuit taps into the blink turn signal line to determine when it is pulsing causing the car's turning light to blink. When when applying a left turn signal, the left marker extinguishes, the left LED turn signal flashes, goes off; and the alternating marker/turn signal flashing continues until the left turn signal is removed. But was unable to get the instant one and off I was looking for. the 10K value is dependent on the relay coil current…so you can tailor the value accordingly, however a pot is not recommended and is not necessary, it must be a fixed resistor. A quick and cheap way that works just as good is a tail light wiring converter for trailers. So pin 30 of relay to ground. Sir any modification needed or we just need to adjust the resistance and led to drive on 6 volt.Simple PIR Controlled LED Lamp Circuit1.bp.blogspot.com/-MlL3YrsADGU/U4Gg728Ct4I/AAAAAAAAG-s/qr5pq95RMKg/s1600/PIR+LED+driver+circuit.png. I love they way they work and would like to convert them with my modification to LEDs. Only with marker lights on at night. It's wired from the factory (GM) such that the front side marker lights flash with the front turn signals and opposite (ground reverses) when the running lights are on. I am an electronic engineer (dipIETE ), hobbyist, inventor, schematic/PCB designer, manufacturer. Check for damaged or burned-out bulbs in all turn signals on that side. I'm all about safety! The reason this simple mod works is that the fog and turn signal share a ground. Just wondering if someone could tell me how to wire my marker lights to run with my blinker. Pull out the side marker and disconnect the bulb socket from the side marker: twist and pull. This circuit receives constant power for brake lights and pulsed power for turn signal. The chart shows four LED Side Markers they are single function bulbs: off during the daytime; on at night. The side markers flash on when the driving lights are off; they flash off when the driving lights are on. Installing the lights along the skirt of the trailer was as easy as anyone could hope for. They don't turn completely off. Basically leave the power as is, and take the ground, snip it, and wire it to the turn signal. By moving the signal to the marker light. It means the intended customization should be designed such that it blinks the side markers by alternately cutting off the supply during day time, and by alternately applying power during night time, these are two different modes which are required to induce the desired flashing effect on the specified side markers whenever the turn signals are switched ON. I'll assemble it tomorrow and give it a try. marker lights as turn signals - First let me say hello to everyone. First start off by finding the positive and negative wires for both the turn signal and marker light. Is there a way to have it turn back on after voltage reaches a certain threshold of approximately 10 volts or higher. HOWEVER, I have a 91, so … Ram, no modifications would be required in the circuit, for the LEDs just use 2 LEDs in each string without any resistors. Can you please help me with this circuit design and parts list. Partsam Pair 6" Amber Side Front Marker Light Turn Signal Light High Low Brightness Sealed, 20 Diodes, Trailer Clearance and led marker lights, 6x2 Rectangular Rectangle led lights, 3 Wires. Turn on just the marker lights and remove the marker bulb and using a meter determine which wire has 12v. 2- have the front side marker lights also be a turn signal light. You can visually inspect them by looking into the front fairing, to the sides of the headlights. On the driver side and passenger side, the front side marker lights both use a YEL & WHT/BLK wire. Discussion Starter • #1 • Nov 5, 2015. This shows you how to hook up an AUX light so it can be used as both a turn signal and a running light. Remove the two screws holding the side marker in place. On the trailer side, use the other side of the 2 pin connector to run to each side marker. On the V-Strom, the left and right turn bulbs each have two wires. Yes I believe I actually do follow you on that. The other circuit does both turn signal and brake lights. I am finding it bit difficult to understand his request. I quickly realized that this will not work because the light bulbs are working with reversing polarity and therefore I will need a more managed solution. There are plug in kits available to convert signal lights to dual elements, but maybe not for the Intruder, but one could be spliced into your harness. With the second relay the capacitor was to discharge enough to release relay. I just finished changing my marker or parking lights into a combination of marker and turn signal. I have looked through your blogs and have not been able to find the exact solution. I put a 2.2k resistor from the positive side of light to ground and it fixed it. Your email address will not be published. Notify me via e-mail if anyone answers my comment. Cut the positive lead to the turn signal as close as possible to the light, leaving as much wire length as possible and route the wire to the marker location. I am using LED light bulbs. The blue circles are the side marker lamps. Enhancing Car Turn Signal Lights, Park-Lights and Side-Marker Lights. by Bob Caruthers Here are the steps: One is the marker positive and the other goes to the turn signal on the front of the Jeep. Get it as soon as Tue, Dec 29. I would also like to connect up my rear side markers another 158 bulb to the same circuit. OK great, in that case you can consider of changing the TIP127 with a smaller transistor such as a 8550 or 2N2907 for making the design more economical and compact, I tried different combinations of capacitors and resistors which helped. I am currently using a simple wiring  mod that has worked successfully for 20 years. Your email address will not be published. Last Updated on August 6, 2018 by Swagatam 28 Comments. I thought I would condense the information down, and eliminate some less effective ways that were shown in the original post. The circuit taps into the blink turn signal line to determine when it is pulsing causing the car's turning light to blink. It would depend on how they are put together and/or how handy you are with mods. After changing to an LED compatible flashing unit, everything is working correctly. So I used your circuit but used the TIP127 to control a second relay. I tapped into the wiring for the tail lights for the rear and middle turn signals. Cut the positive lead to the marker light about 3" from the light. They will combine the brake wiring and the turn signal wiring so they will work. 2. OK thanks, I am glad it's now working for you as per the expectation. I also have plans of adding an aftermarket bumper In the future, and just to keep the bumper look cleaner and not have the ugly round turn signals in them. As Abel Labour stated earlier it does flash out of time. If you have any circuit related query, you may interact through comments, I'll be most happy to help! Would the collector of the BC547 still go over to the turn signal source as well as the base of the new TIP127/10k or only the TIP27/10k? Connect all of the wires according to the new wire configuration. We didn't want the side marker light it up at night so I did the following below. Cut the other wire that is going to the turn signals and run it to a ground connection. Would this be adviseable or would it hurt anything? Blinks as correctly. Technical Specifications. The skirting is totally cosmetic and the underside is completely open. $19.98 $ 19. The DeLorean has two taillight assemblies, one on each side of the car. The second necessity desires one more lamp which might be placed as a side marker lamp to react to the above side indicator or the turn signals but flash with an opposite switching. Both the lamps will flash in sync according to the design, can you tell me why do you think it won't? I have a 1990 automobile which I believe does not have very sophisticated circuitry controlling the direction signals /driving lights and side markers. Once the above modification is done, during night, the side marker positive line carrying the positive supply would normally keep the lamp switched ON through the 1N4007 diode, and the N/C contact/pole of the relay. I will like to have everything flashing at the same time and I am wondering if I can connect the turn signal light bulb at the point 87 of the circuit. The front marker/turn signal light is hard to see in the large photo so I included the inset. I have a project that is slightly related to this one and could use your help. Only issue I'm seeing is marker light recovery to on. Parking lights, or marker lights, are the central red light, and are lit w… Waterproof trailer light functions as both a side marker light and turn signal.Amber polycarbonate lens. Long time lurker here. Had I known about your before I could have saved money with your circuit design. yes the initial circuit was designed to operate in the opposite way at night as per the original request, I have updated a new diagram, check if that works as per your specifications. Sam-o for the right side. The idea was requested by Mr. Jerry Klein. Any ideas? BUT it's more complex than the simple wire splice method and if you want the sidelights to work in sync all the time, you also have to wire and supply a 12V circuit to both sides - to the relay (and thus) extra lights. The turn signal on the driver side also has a YEL & WHT/BLK wire. Left LED Fender Side Marker Light Turn Signal Light Lamp Replacement for BMW E46 2001-2005. Would a smaller resistor or capacitor help lessen the fade in time? For this reason, when the turn signal lights are operated, the daytime running lights function is interrupted momentarily, which, however, will be brought back into operation as soon as the turn signal is switched off. The post explains an innovative circuit modification which allows a single common lamp to be used as a parking light, turn signal indicator light, as well as a side marker light on the relevant positions. This will explain how to flash the front marker lights on an 05 Sport with the turn signals. If your vehicle has a 2 wire system which uses the same bulb for the brake and directional signal, you would need a vehicle to vehicle converter, part # 118158 installed on the trailer. 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